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trulymadly
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 Posted: 25 Oct 2007 16:34 Post subject: I Hate Google !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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How is it possible that one day, google decide, hey your page is so revelant to all our loyal surfer when they search for celebrity.
One hours later, google decide, hey your page is shit, let us put the sites that use google adword campaign in front of your site. We will drop you to page 1000000 of search result for the time being until we review it in 10 years time, or of course, you can always use google adword and we will see what we can do.
How is it possible that a site full of javascript doorway pages be in better position?
How is it possible that all webmaster and web sites let google bully us to make sites that google like?
How is it possible that all other search engine let google dominate the whole planet?
To be honest, as we are in the webmaster business, we all know the google search results are far from what surfer really looking for, except when a surfer types the site domain in the search bar.
linkbacks as vote of confidence from another websites are bullshit as we all know it.
Ok, sorry everyone, I am just so upset everytime google do this to me, soon I will sue google causing me stress by manipulating what is really revelant information to surfer or not.
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Google quality guideline:
"Don't use unauthorized computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our Terms of Service."
What the f****. What is an authorised computer program then if we want to submit pages and check ranking?
Anyone knows?
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greenrat
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Maybe Google is coming out with their own browser and all others will be unauthorized  |
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trulymadly
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Lets face it, I have a site, but shhhhh, somewhere, got about 500 doorway pages, I did not use redirect to make money out of adwords, but sure picked up some traffic for other purpose.
Google is not all that smart, but when I make an honest site, spent nights writing out descriptions for the gallery, it decide to drop my site out of the picture?
So, all these talk from google about fighting cheaters, fighting again link exchange, trying to make it a better search experience for surfers, are all bullshit.
Cause, it is Google itself who is provoking us, here to try all tricks to get better results.
I mean, look, search for nude celebrity on google.com . British Broadcast Centre got a higher position than my porn site?
What's BBC got to do with nude celebrity when a surfer type nude celebrity into the search box. The surfer is certainly not looking for a cook report about nude celebrity, or BBC's point of view about nude celebrity.
That's what upset me most.
Sorry everyone, not trying here to turn this thread into my personal blog against google.
And so I stop here and have some beer.
Good bye Google, Hello Yahoo directory.
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jack
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| Posted: 25 Oct 2007 23:32 Post subject: google |
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Google fuck my pages all time , they play with rank of page how they want and google work not so correct ;-(
About Blog i think good idea ask from Protect-X Team open here Blog for every webmaster who want it ?
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trulymadly
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hmm yeah, personal blog in protect-x
Google will like that. User generated content, unique and flesh.
What am I saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now let gang up with Yahoo against Google 
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| Hum! strange but interesting! some of my biggest search entries come back from google , I am not sure what they are doing do? at this time it would be a good idea if possible to splain in detail so we may help you get your page up again, it just does not make any ???,, Do you know if any one or maybe your pages got jack and redirected to any iligal site,, that would be my first gess?.. my site freegangbang.com got jack and redirected to a child site like 3 years ago and it was a night mare... |
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max
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| Posted: 26 Oct 2007 10:42 Post subject: Manipulating search results |
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| trulymadly wrote: | | linkbacks as vote of confidence from another websites are bullshit as we all know it. |
actually they are a vote, as it must be in general, if you set up a link to a site of your friend, you tell the world "hey, it is a cool site! i found it for you and want to share it with my site visitors. You should look it". But webmaster mes this good idea in order to get better search results. Nothing against link exchange, just a plain business IMO.
This week i've started to read Google Search Algorithm in patents. Nothing to talk about yet, as far as english is not my native;), but i think everyone who want to make his site search engines friendly must learn it, at least in a form of simple overview (if it exists).
| trulymadly wrote: | | To be honest, as we are in the webmaster business, we all know the google search results are far from what surfer really looking for, except when a surfer types the site domain in the search bar. |
i agree with you that Google algorithm brings not so relevant results like they say. I've seen a survey that compare results of queries, processed by Google and third company question/answer-orientated algorithm under the same web pages database (don't ask me about how they get it, i don't know:) And the results of alternate algorithm was amazing.
But the point is in marketing at the end. Google made a name itself. Company crew made it the most known SE in the net. Near 60% (correct me if i'm mistaking) And we all must consider this fact and tune our small sites according to this giant in order to get a small piece of searching surfers pie. The only question is what you do to get what you want.
| trulymadly wrote: | | Now let gang up with Yahoo against Google |
As for yahoo:
i've noticed new sites on first two positions one day (aprox a week ago) in all queries where i was ranked. And it was...... yahoo.com and another one link.. something like green.yahoo.com or another of their projects  There was no relevancy at all on those pages for my porn queries. How it can be explained?! I don't know and suppose nobody except yahoo staff knows. Maybe they decided to push their site in every query for a one day, but i doubt this action is fair to those who was on 9 and 10 positions before, as they moved on 2nd page. |
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jack
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| Posted: 08 Nov 2007 16:34 Post subject: google vs yahoo |
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Checked google search and google not index few pages and url' s on my site and i have many links on this site 
and yahoo work perfect index all pages.
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ONE BIG GOOGLE SECRET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET RID OF YOUR DAMN TABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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greenrat
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| adultinternet wrote: | ONE BIG GOOGLE SECRET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET RID OF YOUR DAMN TABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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True. But what tgp script builds with css instead of tables?
Another thing that helps is to put text links in your tgp as well as thumbs. Google likes fresh content and can see the text changing all the time whereas the thumbs are less noticable. Also a Google sitemap helps, but that is more with blogs than tgps, or other sites with many pages. Social bookmarking helps too, just to name a few.
There is no one secret - it is a combination of factors that Google frequently changes the weights on. When they do that is when you see your site go up - or disappear. |
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max
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| adultinternet wrote: | ONE BIG GOOGLE SECRET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET RID OF YOUR DAMN TABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i heard this tip as well, but i also noticed my tables content is well cached  so i don't know why i should change my template and throw away table tags  |
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trulymadly
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| Posted: 09 Nov 2007 14:35 Post subject: Still fighting |
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Another big problem I am facing with blog pages listing in google is to avoid duplicate content ( or it thinks its duplicate ). The only thing I discover so far is drinking more beer does not help  One day 100 pages listed, the next day 10 then 100 then 10. I think google itself is as confused as we are.
Oh, I don't think taking away the tables on all my tgp pages is an option. I am just not good enough to make thumb templates just with div tags. Might works for text tgp but I like my thumbs.
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| Posted: 09 Nov 2007 16:27 Post subject: Re: Still fighting |
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| trulymadly wrote: | | The only thing I discover so far is drinking more beer does not help |
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smartfred
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I hope the search tool currently build by Wikipedia creator will replace this fucking one.
Surfers rates will rank your sites. I just hope they won't banned porn. |
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