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Sem



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PostPosted: 16 Oct 2006 08:06    Post subject: Check for cheaters Reply with quote

I found this site http://www.cheaterhell.com/ what do you think about is??
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PostPosted: 17 Nov 2006 23:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's decent, but this website has a lot more potential...
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PostPosted: 17 Nov 2006 23:09    Post subject: anti cheat syste Reply with quote

but this site not so correct add cheaters to database they can take everybody and add it to database i think this not so good Sad
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PostPosted: 18 Nov 2006 00:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

SG wrote:
It's decent, but this website has a lot more potential...


I have few traders in my toplist who is a cheater in cheaterhell, maybe they was cheater, maybe no , but i see now they send me good traff.
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PostPosted: 18 Nov 2006 00:56    Post subject: Re: anti cheat syste Reply with quote

eddi wrote:
but this site not so correct add cheaters to database they can take everybody and add it to database i think this not so good Sad

What are you talking about?

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PostPosted: 18 Nov 2006 01:01    Post subject: cheaterhell Reply with quote

To SG

Sorry for my english i from Germany Sad

I mean the cheaterhell have database of cheaters , how can i know if this database all 100% cheaters ?
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PostPosted: 20 Nov 2006 08:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, not really useful and inaccurate - they basically take everyone who posts cheats in the forums at www.askdamagex.com and post them into Cheater Hell - the problem is - if your site is found to be cheating and it's posted, then its next to impossible to get it removed, even if you fix the problem.

I wouldn't use it personally. Stick with Protect-X, watch your trades, and run new trades through their trader check link.
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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2007 02:58    Post subject: Re: anti cheat syste Reply with quote

eddi wrote:
but this site not so correct add cheaters to database they can take everybody and add it to database i think this not so good Sad


no, they can NOT take anybody in there. ONLY sites that have posted on well known cheaterforums are added there. For EVERY entry there is at least 1 post.

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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2007 03:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sem wrote:
SG wrote:
It's decent, but this website has a lot more potential...


I have few traders in my toplist who is a cheater in cheaterhell, maybe they was cheater, maybe no , but i see now they send me good traff.


but a sudden they changed their mind? Principally very optimistic, but who knows, it's your site and your traffic, if you are satisfied, go on, lol.

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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2007 03:01    Post subject: Re: cheaterhell Reply with quote

eddi wrote:
I mean the cheaterhell have database of cheaters , how can i know if this database all 100% cheaters ?


because someone has publicly posted in a forum that they are cheaters. In 99.5% the information are accurate.

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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2007 03:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharphead wrote:
Nah, not really useful and inaccurate - they basically take everyone who posts cheats in the forums at www.askdamagex.com and post them into Cheater Hell


So you think most of the cheaters posted on the askdamagex.com chater forum are NOT cheaters? Also cheaterhell results are taken from other cheater forums as well, not only from there.

sharphead wrote:

- the problem is - if your site is found to be cheating and it's posted, then its next to impossible to get it removed, even if you fix the problem.


Why should it be easy? If someone has cheated/is cheating than his place is just there. Principally cheaterhell entries are ONLY removed if the post on the cheater forum gets deleted or edited. Cheaterhell is NOT playing judge in such cases.


sharphead wrote:

I wouldn't use it personally. Stick with Protect-X, watch your trades, and run new trades through their trader check link.


I use protect-x.com on all my sites and it's great, but does it show you the sites with trojans, viruses, codecs, redirecting, mass consoles, traffic leachers, high crap country traffic like 50% china, illegal trade scripts or any other shit????? Not really, or?
Do you know any better resource for looking for such cheats? If so let me know please.

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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2007 19:51    Post subject: Re: anti cheat syste Reply with quote

pornonada wrote:
eddi wrote:
but this site not so correct add cheaters to database they can take everybody and add it to database i think this not so good Sad


no, they can NOT take anybody in there. ONLY sites that have posted on well known cheaterforums are added there. For EVERY entry there is at least 1 post.


But I can post any domain in the Well Known forum with comments that he is a cheater. And this domain will be added to cheatershell. I think it is wrong
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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2007 20:01    Post subject: Re: anti cheat syste Reply with quote

max wrote:
pornonada wrote:
eddi wrote:
but this site not so correct add cheaters to database they can take everybody and add it to database i think this not so good Sad


no, they can NOT take anybody in there. ONLY sites that have posted on well known cheaterforums are added there. For EVERY entry there is at least 1 post.


But I can post any domain in the Well Known forum with comments that he is a cheater. And this domain will be added to cheatershell. I think it is wrong


yes, that is correct, but than again there is SOMEONE who has to stand with his name for it. You can answer and the issue can be discussed.
All cheater forums work like this and cheaterhell is only putting together the info from let's say 10 such forums into 1 database, that's it.

Do you personally prefer blacklists that are openly posted without even less evidience? Or anonymious cheater submissions?

Also while you think this is a disadvantage it's also an advantage because if you find for example your domain on cheaterhell than this means it has be posted on one of the 10 biggest cheater forums. Without cheaterhell you mostly even wouldn't know if it's your domain, which again allows you to make a post, defend your site or whatever.

Honestly, i have no idea how a free site that collects cheater information could be organized more fair than this, but maybe you have some ideas?
Or maybe you can show me a better resource where you can lock up and check cheaters before you enable a trade?? Let's here your ideas and resources....

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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2007 20:24    Post subject: Re: anti cheat syste Reply with quote

pornonada wrote:
Do you personally prefer blacklists that are openly posted without even less evidience? Or anonymious cheater submissions?

Also while you think this is a disadvantage it's also an advantage because if you find for example your domain on cheaterhell than this means it has be posted on one of the 10 biggest cheater forums. Without cheaterhell you mostly even wouldn't know if it's your domain, which again allows you to make a post, defend your site or whatever.

Honestly, i have no idea how a free site that collects cheater information could be organized more fair than this, but maybe you have some ideas?
Or maybe you can show me a better resource where you can lock up and check cheaters before you enable a trade?? Let's here your ideas and resources....


Yeah. You right. In this point of view cheatershell interesting like additional information service.
But some people start to interpret it like rule, reason for immediate action. They don't understand it is only someone's opinion. They don't know guy (and his reputation), that post domain as cheater. They don't know the board where domain is posted.
I think owners of cheatershell may at least add some info about their way of adding domains. Additional info. Like you have posted at least.
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PostPosted: 02 Feb 2007 21:49    Post subject: Re: anti cheat syste Reply with quote

max wrote:
pornonada wrote:
Do you personally prefer blacklists that are openly posted without even less evidience? Or anonymious cheater submissions?

Also while you think this is a disadvantage it's also an advantage because if you find for example your domain on cheaterhell than this means it has be posted on one of the 10 biggest cheater forums. Without cheaterhell you mostly even wouldn't know if it's your domain, which again allows you to make a post, defend your site or whatever.

Honestly, i have no idea how a free site that collects cheater information could be organized more fair than this, but maybe you have some ideas?
Or maybe you can show me a better resource where you can lock up and check cheaters before you enable a trade?? Let's here your ideas and resources....


I think owners of cheatershell may at least add some info about their way of adding domains. Additional info. Like you have posted at least.


they are preparing a re-indexing of all the cheater boards and adding the info from which board the information was taken, i guess before the end of the month the database there will have changed.

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