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Viktor



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PostPosted: 30 Oct 2006 09:34    Post subject: Doorway pages Reply with quote

Do doorway pages work, or are they more harm than good.
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jack



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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2007 06:35    Post subject: Re: Doorway pages Reply with quote

What with Doorway pages in cj ? like Text CJ generate many doorway ?

Viktor wrote:
Do doorway pages work, or are they more harm than good.

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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2007 10:18    Post subject: Re: Doorway pages Reply with quote

Viktor wrote:
Do doorway pages work, or are they more harm than good.


I was also wondering that too. Any webmaster pros out there, please let us know! I heard some search engines (Google) don't like doorway pages and can blacklist a site for using doorways, not to sure though.
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max



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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2007 12:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doorways are prohibited by most SEs. Especially doorway don't bring you much profit coz it is hard to detect spyder request. Most spyders use ip range and switch ip in this borders.
If someone know ip range of Google bot, tell me Smile
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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2007 12:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

216.239.32.0 - 216.239.63.255
64.68.80.0 - 64.68.87.255
66.102.0.0 - 66.102.15.255
64.68.64.0 - 64.68.95.255
64.233.160.0 - 64.233.191.255
66.102.0.0 - 66.102.15.255
66.249.64.0 - 66.249.95.255
209.185.0.0 - 209.185.255.255
216.32.0.0 - 216.35.255.255

This is what I have so far on Google

But to what I understand, doorway pages are script ( java for example ) to attract SE attention. It is different to landing page. So yes if you try to tell Google you are smarter than them, I will not be surprise they blacklist you no matter how friendly Google staff appear to be lol.

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max



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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2007 15:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose Google could run their "Doorway detection" bot from another ip range and then compare responses of simple bot and doorway checker. If your site has doorway, responses will not be equal;)
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PostPosted: 13 Apr 2007 23:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, my understanding to this is pretty much not use doorways. Thanks Max and Trulymadly. Very Happy
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analsexy



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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2007 14:09    Post subject: Doorway Adult Traffic Reply with quote

If use doorway like link lists with text on many domains ?
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Zar CJ Trade



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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2007 16:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

max wrote:
.... Especially doorway don't bring you much profit ....


max, that not right. I mean if we talk about doorways and cjs - you are probably right. But doorways as standalone business bring much profit.
Many can't even imagine monthly income...
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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2007 16:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm

There is only one way to find out.................

I am making some standalone doorways now as we speak,

anyone want to buy any ready made doors?

Sorry, I mean doorways.

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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2007 17:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zar CJ Trade wrote:
max wrote:
.... Especially doorway don't bring you much profit ....


max, that not right. I mean if we talk about doorways and cjs - you are probably right. But doorways as standalone business bring much profit.
Many can't even imagine monthly income...


the risk to be banned by SEs is too high. I don't think it is the best way to get cash. In one hand you get money but in other you can lose visitors from SE.
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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2007 20:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is what will probably end up being a dumb question - What are doorways as discussed here?
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PostPosted: 24 Apr 2007 14:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

greenrat wrote:
Here is what will probably end up being a dumb question - What are doorways as discussed here?


It is a pages that replaces real site page for SE spiders (crawlers). When proper script detects spider request, it says server to redirect spider to doorway page. Doorway pages are made specially for better SE ranking (indexing) and are not shown for surfers. That is why doorways are prohibited.
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PostPosted: 24 Apr 2007 19:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got it - thank you Max for explaining.
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2007 06:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

a few months ago, I used to search for "viagra" on google, and there's like 3 doorways in the top 10 results, i don't know wat the situation is now
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