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max
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 Posted: 29 Mar 2007 13:20 Post subject: Value of text on the page? |
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| Is it necessary to add some kind of text (descriptions) to CJ/TGP? Is SE estimate text on the page higher than ALT tags of thumbs? Amount and quality of back links is good thing. But what about relevance while page indexing? |
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trulymadly
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| Posted: 29 Mar 2007 18:18 Post subject: |
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In my opinion, yes, for SE, some text is always a good thing.
When I check on SE query that has sent surfer to my site, most of them are from text in the little paragraphes. Some do come through image search, for me I dont think the alt text is very effective at all unless someone is doing an image search.
But then that is my opinion, as you can see, from the high traffic sites, it is more to do with amount of content, update frequency and the infrustrature of the site's network.
Again, that is only my opinion.
By the way, Max.........you have asked a lot of questions, which one is your site?
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max
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| Posted: 03 Apr 2007 14:43 Post subject: |
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Thank you, trulymadly!
+1
My site listed in my profile.
http://realshemales.org/
It was under another account on Protect-X. Now i moved it to "Max" account.
I am asking a lot of questions because i am not experienced and want to know more. And i think that one of the beest ways to learn something is to talk with wellknown guys in this biz. I already got good advices from Rhino and you, trulymadly. So thank you again for teaching people like me:) |
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fatfoo
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| Posted: 10 Apr 2007 18:26 Post subject: Re: Value of text on the page? |
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| max wrote: | | Is it necessary to add some kind of text (descriptions) to CJ/TGP? Is SE estimate text on the page higher than ALT tags of thumbs? Amount and quality of back links is good thing. But what about relevance while page indexing? |
CJs/TPGs can be without text. If you need SEO traffic, then of course you need text. ALT Tags don't help anymore, don't do those. Most important thing is your site's title, description, keywords, sites that link to you and what text they use to link to you, etc.
This is a very good video, check it out, it will help you with SEO optimization:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7442743622509249126&q=seo |
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max
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| Posted: 10 Apr 2007 18:49 Post subject: |
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really useful video! i didn't understand all things he said, but things that i got were very interesting for me.
How long must be text that links to your site? I mean is it better if it short or long? |
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BOOM
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| Posted: 11 Apr 2007 02:34 Post subject: Re: Value of text on the page? |
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| fatfoo wrote: | | ALT Tags don't help anymore, don't do those. |
I think it is google that does not really value alt tags anymore.
I think yahoo, msn and some others still place some value on alt tags.
Cheers,
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max
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| Posted: 11 Apr 2007 13:17 Post subject: Re: Value of text on the page? |
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| BOOM wrote: | | fatfoo wrote: | | ALT Tags don't help anymore, don't do those. |
I think it is google that does not really value alt tags anymore.
I think yahoo, msn and some others still place some value on alt tags.
Cheers,
BOOM |
do you have some press about it?
some food for your mind http://www.perfect-optimization.com/image-alt-tags.htm
The overall impact of using ALT tags, in terms of search engine optimization, is low. As they have become abused by webmasters who fill alt tags with streams of keywords, the major search engines have lowered the importance of ALT tags in their algorithms.
another one article http://www.ragepank.com/articles/44/does-alt-tag-spam-work/ |
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BOOM
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Okay,
Heres and article that goes right back to what fatfoo said.
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2005/08/15/how-important-is-alt-text-in-search-engine-optimization
None of the big three consider alt tags
| Quote: | | West explains, "Over the last six months, we have seen a trend on our testing servers that shows that using ALT text for SEO purposes has not only diminished, but adversely affects the rankings in the SERPs. |
I guess this means we should leave alt tags blank?
Cheers,
Jeff |
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max
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| Posted: 11 Apr 2007 14:59 Post subject: |
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i would prefer to quote another interesting thing from the same article
| Quote: | | Over the last six months, we have seen a trend on our testing servers that shows that using ALT text for SEO purposes (using keywords, - author remark) has not only diminished, but adversely affects the rankings in the SERPs. |
thank you BOOM, great reading |
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BOOM
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| Dred wrote: | | I use gallery descriptions for the alt text for each thumb. |
Hi Dred,
I used to do that until I figured out I was killing keywords I was targeting. Since the gallery descriptions where random, they affected the keyword density I setup for targeted words. Also since the descriptions are random, I could in fact be seen as spamming a keyword. If too many of the descriptions has one keyword in it. |
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max
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| As i understand filling ALT tags with gallery description can help in better site indexing. But i should review descriptions anyway to clear them from keywords (at least lots of keywords). |
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max
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| Posted: 26 Nov 2007 10:51 Post subject: |
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noticed that Yahoo indexes page text much better than Google. After adding some additional text with calculated keyword density particular page was added to Yahoo index almost immediately, at the same time Google is not adding it to search results... i suppose waiting for outbound links pointing to a certain page  |
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jack
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| Posted: 29 Nov 2007 23:20 Post subject: SE traffic grow from google and yahoo if i add text links ? |
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Guys if i add to my page text link of sponsor fhg's its added to page by ST , if its help to get more SE traff?
also if i have archive on my tgp my traff from SE grow ? or its not important for SE !
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max
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| Posted: 30 Nov 2007 10:42 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Guys if i add to my page text link of sponsor fhg's its added to page by ST , if its help to get more SE traff? |
combination of thumbs and text links works perfect in Comus standard template. Just another additional text on your pages for SE bots to be indexed.
| Quote: | | also if i have archive on my tgp my traff from SE grow ? or its not important for SE ! |
to my mind this implementation is for surfers use only, archives have nothing to do with 'good food' for search crawlers unless you use some advanced descriptions in ALTs.
PS:
Google included before-mentioned pages to its index by targeted keywords and my Google traffic increased tenfold this weekend! But then it was dropped on old positions 
Need to investigate more.... have to go and learn... |
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