MAIN
NEW THREADS
AD SPOT

How to kickstart a TGP?
Protect-X Forum >> TGP, MGP, CJ, Blog, Link and Top Lists
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.
Author Message
FiremanSixNine



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 44
Rank: 1

PostPosted: 31 Mar 2007 12:26    Post subject: How to kickstart a TGP? Reply with quote

Looking for abit of advice..

I've setup my first TGP site. (Well second.. tore down the first and rebuilt it simple Smile)

No ad's, only 70 skim. Cant make it productive with bought traffic despite having no ad's and a simple clean design.

So how do I kick start it?

cant link dump because itll hurt me in the long run right?

The blog subsection brings in the only real good traffic.

www.tickledpinkteens.com

Any ideas would be appreciated Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
FiremanSixNine



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 44
Rank: 1

PostPosted: 31 Mar 2007 13:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dred wrote:
Sign up to trade with like niche sites from Protect-X.
Purchase feeder traffic from Traffic Holders
and/or
Traffic Adept
and/or
ChokerTraffic

You'll have to register your urls to get the discount prices.


I've tried chokertraffic. I can't find any niche there that will give me above 60 to 70% productivity..

Even the ones that are supposably listed 250% productivity dont seem to improve the click stats.

And if I use that to feed trades I'll just get blacklisted won't I?

Is it my site design? I would have thought it was at least average, theres alot of ugly sites out there Smile

Thanks
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
frozenjag



Joined: 09 Nov 2006
Posts: 37
Rank: 26

PostPosted: 31 Mar 2007 20:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

add about 20 trades. Take the spacing and border away from the thumbs. Make it a more "sexy" background. And submit to some link dumps. Lower the skim to 60 percent.
_________________
<a>
<img>
</a><br>
I promote MIC, u should too! ;]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
StickyGreen



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Posts: 146
Rank: 24

PostPosted: 31 Mar 2007 21:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hit me up on icq 200843428 if you want to learn some unconventional ways...
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
rhino



Joined: 23 Dec 2006
Posts: 70
Rank: 12

PostPosted: 31 Mar 2007 21:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a rule, feeder traffic purchased from a reputable traffic broker (Dred listed the usual choices) won't get you blacklisted as the brokers have done the initial filtering for country of origin and proxy. If you run too much feeder traffic for too long a period, without adding additional trade partners, you existing trade partner(s) will probably kill your trade due to low productivity. Trick with bulk feeder traffic is to buy enough to get your site going and stagger delivery over a few (7-14) days, then wean your site from the feeder traffic as your trades pick up.

Rhino

Tip: Prioritize your time. Fill up your trade list ASAP, selecting trade partners in the same niche and with similar sites (both in layout/thumb sizes), and similar traffic... and count your existing + feeder traffic when looking for new trade partners.

If you're getting 50/hr feed, then look for sites in the 1k-2k/day range for best results. Also, you're the one looking for traffic back, so expect to force at least 10 raw to start up each new trade (plus it avoids being blacklisted as a traffic leach). FWIW, most traders will overlook lower productivity from a new trade for a longer period of time, if they are getting some traffic to their site with the new trade signup. At that point, it's just a numbers game... and you can quickly improve your sites desireability with other traders (and the productivity of your traffic out) by adding more trades that further dilute the feeder traffic and your sites productivity goes up.

Once you have your initial trade base of 25-30 or more active trades based on raw traffic, start cleaning up your trades. Kill any trades that are less then 100% productive, replacing them with new trades. Keep repeating the process adding new trades with the goal of being 100% feeder free and all trades in the 150% productivity range. It may take a while, but be consistent with managing your trades and adding new trades, and it will happen.

You can find a good resource of potential trades in the Protect-X Find Traders DB to get you started, but IMO the best source of good new trades is from the top lists of your current productive trades.

As for your site - starting out a 60%-65% skim will give you faster growth plus make it easier to find trade partners, and pass every link (including internal links to your text links page & blog) through your trade script. Drop any links for now that don't directly contribute to building traffic.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
FiremanSixNine



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 44
Rank: 1

PostPosted: 01 Apr 2007 01:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dredd and Rhino for taking so much time Smile

Think I've got a better handle on things now..

I'll make the blog only link in not out. text links are trading. And see how i go as outlined above.

Cheers
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
FiremanSixNine



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 44
Rank: 1

PostPosted: 02 Apr 2007 13:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhino wrote:

Once you have your initial trade base of 25-30 or more active trades based on raw traffic, start cleaning up your trades. Kill any trades that are less then 100% productive, replacing them with new trades. Keep repeating the process adding new trades with the goal of being 100% feeder free and all trades in the 150% productivity range. It may take a while, but be consistent with managing your trades and adding new trades, and it will happen.


This may well be a stupid question..

But..

How does one usually go about killing trades?

Just delete them and thats it? Seems kinda rude. Dont want to get blacklisted etc by anyone.. Wont they just keep sending me hits and wondering why i dont send any back and call me a cheater?

Or is it just part of the trade and expected?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
nexxus



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 4

Location: Washington, DC

PostPosted: 02 Apr 2007 16:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got some good advice here. I'll give even one more secret to getting your site into turbo mode. If you can take on submitter do so. submitter really bring fresh content to your site and give the surfer something different. I know you would prefer getting your hosted galleries into the front, but bookmark surfers are best they will keep coming back every day for more. They will also give your site great productivity if you trying to go with a high skim.

Try places like http://www.advancedsubmitter.com/add_your_site.html and add your submit page to start getting some submitters. Al most all the submission script site have a place to add your site.

Also cropping is of your thumbs is critical look at what your surfers are clicking on and give them what they want. Try this and down the road keep adding the free hosted galleries from your sponsors daily. Get the latest and greatest and you should make profits easily. Add those banner but keep it simple, 1 or 2 shouldn't hurt. I get tons of sign-ups from banner click. And my best days are when I have a new site to promote the banner clicks go straight up.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
nexxus



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 4

Location: Washington, DC

PostPosted: 02 Apr 2007 16:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="FiremanSixNine"]
rhino wrote:

How does one usually go about killing trades?

Just delete them and thats it? Seems kinda rude. Dont want to get blacklisted etc by anyone.. Wont they just keep sending me hits and wondering why i dont send any back and call me a cheater?

Or is it just part of the trade and expected?


I usually send them a brief email telling them I have stop the trade and to delete my trade with them. No sense in making enemies I know some of you have deleted a trade only to see some hitbot the hell out of your site the next and your best trades starting to die. We spend lots of time and money to get and trade traffic, A little respect goes a long way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
HSB



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 10


PostPosted: 02 Apr 2007 21:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

could you kick-start a TGP with trades and feeder traffic alone?....for how long would you feed purchased traffic to a new tgp having around 40 active trades?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
StickyGreen



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Posts: 146
Rank: 24

PostPosted: 02 Apr 2007 22:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSB wrote:
could you kick-start a TGP with trades and feeder traffic alone?....for how long would you feed purchased traffic to a new tgp having around 40 active trades?


As long as your site is productive and people click shit then you don't even really need to buy traffic. If your site is productive, then just keep adding trades, and if you have good scripts... the site should slowly start to grow...

This isn't brain surgery people...

_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
FiremanSixNine



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 44
Rank: 1

PostPosted: 03 Apr 2007 00:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="StickyGreen"]
HSB wrote:

This isn't brain surgery people...


Granted one should research as much as possible on their own.. but after that, there are no stupid questions, only stupid people who dont ask enough questions Smile

Alot of experienced people here. And a few experts.

PS Thanks again for everyone who's replied in this thread Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gangbangs



Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 13


PostPosted: 03 Apr 2007 05:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read through this thread and their is a lot of good info in here. Thanks to everyone who has passed along some tricks.

I have some questions myself....

Quote:
Trick with bulk feeder traffic is to buy enough to get your site going and stagger delivery over a few (7-14) days, then wean your site from the feeder traffic as your trades pick up.


What would be a good rule of thumb to work from if I have 20 trades?. I have no idea what would be a good hourly force from paid traffic.

Quote:
Once you have your initial trade base of 25-30 or more active trades based on raw traffic, start cleaning up your trades. Kill any trades that are less then 100% productive, replacing them with new trades.


If i did that, I would have 3 trades out of 15. Would it be in my best intrest to drop the trades that are below 100% Prod?. I understand in the long run it would be better. Should I just bite the bullet?

I have a beef with some sites. I will sign up for a trade. I will ICQ the webmaster and let him know I signed up. Alot of sites say to force some hits. I force 25 hits. I look at the trade stats over 24 hours and some sites send 0 hits back. Even though I just sent 25 hits. To me, thats a) Rude and B) thats like leaching traffic in reverse. Thats not right. I hate to throw away 25 hits when my site is getting 500 hits a day... And for some reason, I cant get above 500/day. Yea, I know, some of you had 500 hits in the time its taking me to write this.

If I got everything right from reading this thread, I should delete trades that are less than 100% prod, and bite the bullet. Buy enough traffic for 10 or so days. (How many hits an hour to force Im not sure about). Trade with sites with the same niche. Add trades daily (is 5 trades a day good number to work with?). Delete trades daily that are below 100%.

Do I have the right concept?

Any other advice would be really appreciated

Suzy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
FiremanSixNine



Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 44
Rank: 1

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2007 11:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

gangbangs wrote:

If I got everything right from reading this thread, I should delete trades that are less than 100% prod, and bite the bullet. Buy enough traffic for 10 or so days. (How many hits an hour to force Im not sure about). Trade with sites with the same niche. Add trades daily (is 5 trades a day good number to work with?). Delete trades daily that are below 100%.

Do I have the right concept?

Any other advice would be really appreciated

Suzy


Thats pretty much it. I think though for a site to sustain itself it has to reach 300% productivity. with 66% skim that means everyone who comes in generates enough clicks to make another customer (in theory). Delete everyone under 100%, be ruthless. Once done there wait a week then contact anyone under 150% and see if they know whats going on.. delete the ones that cant improve (or think that your traffic is too low prod to return better) etc etc.

Work on generating traffic from places outside of trades. Google, directories, hardlinks.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jack



Joined: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 570
Rank: 42

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2007 22:04    Post subject: SE traffic Reply with quote

Try hardlinks exchange with same niche sites , maybe it not help quickly but give to you some result and up your prod. in few months.
_________________
I Love Protect-X.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
   
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.  This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.
 
Jump to:  
Page 1 of 1

 
ADVERTISEMENT

ImLive Cam Adult sponsor


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

Anti Bot Question MOD - phpBB MOD against Spam Bots
Blocked registrations / posts: 0 / 0