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OffMan



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PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 09:47    Post subject: New paysite design, please comment Reply with quote

http://www.graphicbynature.com
(To be re-assigned to www.amateur-international.com in the near future.)

OK, she's not done yet, and a lot of the links aren't finalized, but the tour is basically done.

Focal points for discussion.

1) The header banners at the top of each page:
a) Too artsy?
b) Hate the black and white?
c) Need more hard core/cum-on-face images?
d) Need to bump up the saturation?
e) Make header banners wider/taller?

2) Too much text?
(Personally, I don't think 75% of the surfers will read the text, but if it can't hurt to have it for the 25% that will be intrigued by the story, then...why not?)

3) Anything else you can think of.

Notes:

1) "The Girls" section is far from done and the collage posted is not at all like what I just sketched out for my designer. And it loads slow as hell due to size which will be fixed.

2) Also, I plan to link some of the phrases in the text of the paragraphs to hi-res 1600x1200 images in addition to showcasing the models in "The Girls" section.

3) I plan on only running one sample trailer. Sort of long music video of a wide variety of girls--even though the free video icon is on every page of the tour.
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PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 09:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tour focuses too much on text and porn surfers don't read. Too many Asians unless it's supposed to be an Asian site, which neither the name nor the fact that you also have a few non Asians leads me to believe.
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PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 09:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for commenting!

Yeah, my designer went heavy on the asians. I'm in the process of fixing it right now. Once the featured girl area is up, that will give a lot more balance too. I'm definitely going to weigh the balance of the header banners across ethnicities. I have lot of white girls too, they're just not up on banners.

I'm thinking maybe I could have the header banners rotate. Perhaps just two slowly dissolving back and forth per page (sort of like how the entry page is.) BTW, I know my 2257 page isn't right yet. Hopefully the dissolving banners won't make the page too slow or irritating.

Regarding text, I'll have to think about that. I'm trying to get a tour that is visually stimulating yet provides some interest in back-story to those that want to read. That's why I've told my designer to place all the relevant links towards the top of the page (though she still has the free video box and continue tour at the bottom, grrrrr!) This is so all the surfers that could care less about the text don't have to read it. They're still hit with plently of visuals on the top half of their screen. It would be bad if the navigation forced the surfer to read, or scroll down through the text to continue the tour.

Also, how do you reconcile the success of porn blogs if people don't like to read about porn? One reasonable explanation is that the text on a porn blog serves ONLY to get SE traffic. And the surfers that get to the blog via the SE's are simply more likely to buy b/c they came from SE's and not b/c they've been persuaded to buy b/c of the text they read (or don't read as the case may be.)

Whatcha think?
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PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 09:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big difference between a blog and a pay site tour, man
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PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 09:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, can you expound a little on the relevant differences between a tour and a blog? (Skip the obvious ones.)

One similarity, duh, is that they're both trying to get you to buy something.

But let's focus on why text works for one and not the other.

Let's get in your head, man!
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PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 09:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's how I see it Man.

With a blog we're showing free content to the surfers and that is the primary reason they will click to check out our pay sites. The text, although it can help convince some surfers to click, is primarily there for the search engines. Without it, the typical porn blog is nothing more than a limited content TGP.

Now, there are surfers that love blogs and like to read. They're the same type of surfer that will visit political blogs, typical diary style blogs, etc. They just like reading about other people;s experiences and opinions. If they like your blogging style and visit your blog often enough, then a sort of trust is established. If you tell them that a pay site is the best site you've ever found, or that a particular lube or masturbation devices is the best you've ever used, they'll believe it.

Now, remember that alll this time our job has been to find ways to convince the surfer to click and check out the pay site we're promoting. To do that, we use every trick we can come up with, but once we get them to the pay site, our motives change. At that point we are no longer working at convincing them to LOOK at something, we're trying to convince them to JOIN.

We finally were successful in getting the surfer to click and check out our pay site. At that point they know that they are going to have to pay for something if they really want it and won't be looking for more free content and wanting to read a lot. They want to know that your pay site has exactly what they like, and lots of it. If on your blog you showed them a gallery with tattooed lesbians and that's what they like so they clicked to check out your tattooed lesbian website, you've got them hooked, now you need to real them in.

If a guy shows up at your website with a boner and a credit card, do you want to shuttle him around multiple pages with lots of text and a few photos expeciting him to actually read anything when what he really wants is to see lots of tattooed lesbians, some sample videos and some text that tells him exactly how much content you have and how often you update and that the content is all 100% exclusive?
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PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 09:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Sounds like I need to start a blog that supports the back story for the website. Basically, take alot of the text from the tour pages and incorporate that into separate site (the blog.)

Are you also recommending reducing the number of pages in the tour? There's essentially 4 tour pages now, 6 if you count the Home page and the Join page which are all part of the "click trail" from Warning to Join. I thought I was picking a pretty standard number (4).
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PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 09:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I think the number of pages is fine, but when I went through it the glaring thing that struck me was the lack of any actual content. Each page has a header with a photo or two of a couple girls and then the rest of the page is text. I still think it's too much text on most pages, but even if you interspersed some photos in the text area it would be better.
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PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 09:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

looking nice!!
some good feedback you got!
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PostPosted: 15 Oct 2006 08:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good site.
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